Testimonials by people using the tubeless rim's 

Hi there, I know this is my first post but I just found you.
my name is Roy Cross and I live in Vancouver Canada,
I'm the only non American doing the cannonball run, 3500 miles in 9 days.
any way disco Dave is one of my sponsors and I've had some of his tubeless rims for a while now, because I need to be 100% confident in the before I start racing across a foreign country!
and here's what I had to say about them when asked about them on the BBS.


Right , there are /or is more than 1 manufacture of tubeless rims, so I can only state the fact from the rims I have, that were from disco Dave in the UK,
here's what I know about mine. firstly they are stainless steel, so when they get crap all over them take a soft cloth and wipe them and they look brand new, period. although I've only had them for 3 months.
when I got them I let the air out a bit, so you could see that they were a little flat, but still looked ride-able, then bumped them up a few side walk curbs
so that the tyre was pinched between the rim and the curb, hey were talking a vespa here not a dirt bike so keep it in perspective,
but after a few of those no problem, so then I let them really flat, put the scooter on the stand and started reefing on the tyre, side to side like,
nope, still couldn't get the thing to let go.
it wasn't until they were almost out of air that you could even see a chance of breaking the bead by hand.
as for fitting them, I wasn't even going near the local m/c store, a Suzuki
dealer by the way because those greedy lot start rubbing there hands like little elves when you come though the door.
Then when you say vespa, they are even less help, sorry I digress.
so I went to big o the local automotive tyre shop who does the family cars, when I got there he put the rim on the rim jig pushed in the pneumatic clamps to hold the rim, but it was to small to use the machine to get the put the tyre on. but it held it loosely, so he put the tyre on with
2 tyre levers and some tyre soap, and if I had away of holding the rim still, and BIG smooth tyre lever anyone could do it.
when I asked him if he though that they were to tight or loose, he said they were a little tighter than he thought they would be, but looking at the other one that didn't surprise him because the don't have the little ridge on the inside of the rim that goes on the inside of the bead to hold it in place, while you put air in it, but it sealed almost straight away.
oh and when I got them they were a little tight on the hub, but it took literally 2 strokes of a big half round file on 2 places inside the rim and the fitted like a treat.
oh and the tyres were s83's.
I cant wait to see how the hold up on the cannonball, but my spare will be a split rim so I have the best of both worlds , but I will be running 2 tubeless rims from www.scootertrumps.co.uk
oh and when I get a nail in my car tyre , I dig it out with pliers,
the use a t handle and a plugging kit to seal it up right there, without taking it off, I wonder does anyone know if I can do that with the s83's on the tubeless rims?
in 25 years of riding I only had a blow out once , and that was 1 to many,
bikes have had tubeless rims for ever, after the last 3 months I'm sold.

oh and by the way hi all, I am Roy.

Barty Joined: 24 Mar 2006 Posts: 39

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 5:53 pm    Post subject: I was hoping to have given the rims a good testing before posting anything but as my identity has been hinted at I thought I had better add to the discussion. Firstly, at present I am running stainless steel rims on both of my Lammies, Standard St St tubeless on my Li and St St Split rims on my GP (rear is a St St Wide rim). Having worked in Stainless Steel for nearly 20 years in industry i am aware of it's pros and cons as far as it properties. there is a certain amount of truth in the brittleness and tensile strength compared to mild still, but the same can be said about Mag alloy in comparison. I am also aware how many times i have entrusted my life to 30+ year old Innocenti, sub standard Indian and pattern rims of unknown origin. I also know how many pounds I have wasted in chroming only for it to rust within months. So far I can only report positive on these rims, the lack of plate and paint makes getting tyres on and off the tubeless ones some what easier. the fit on all have been first class. They are thicker and therefore heavier, which is probably why the material is not used for cars and bikes, where lightness is everything. All I can say is I will be honest in my feedback on these to you guys as I will be with Dave.

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Barty Joined: 24 Mar 2006 Posts: 51

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:58 am    Post subject: As promised I will now give you my end of year report on the rims i have used. Nothing to report, I put them on and they got ridden on enough events to get me to 6th in the championship, (if my top end hadn't of gone after Isle of Wight, it may have been 5th) As far as riding they are no different to mild steel ones except after a wipe they look as good as the day they went on. A fair number of my club now have them on as well, and anyone that knows them they are not known for riding slow, or taking it easy and they, as with me are pleased with them.